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		<title>Comment on Vesper Service by Mike Quayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Quayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a wonderful evening and inspiring time together.  Hopefully this will become a regular monthly event at HUU !  Thank you David and Sarah and all who participated and attended.  If you were unsure about coming, don&#039;t hesitate. It is a wonderful way to begin the new week !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a wonderful evening and inspiring time together.  Hopefully this will become a regular monthly event at HUU !  Thank you David and Sarah and all who participated and attended.  If you were unsure about coming, don&#8217;t hesitate. It is a wonderful way to begin the new week !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Broken Promises by Chris Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Mike, for this excellent sermon – a sharing of life experience, concern and hope. That, and a previous year’s Labor Day sermon by Daniel Chavez (union organizer, activist and son of migrant workers), rank, to me, among HUU’s best Sunday services ever. UUs tend to be insulated in a bubble (or at least, feel insulated) from the hardships the struggling labor movement was formed to address. We need to hear about Labor Day. 

Mike called for the UU community to speak out for justice. But during the dialogue following the sermon, hearing fellow-parishioners’ comments on laziness and cheating among public assistance beneficiaries, I wondered whether that advocacy can be possible.

Blaming the victim can be so comforting. It relieves us not only of feeling guilty but of worrying that another’s misfortune might just as well happen to us. Of course, laziness and cheating can be found in all walks of life. The welfare recipient who gets a wide-screen TV is only more conspicuous, and an easier target for demagogues’ outrage, than the millionaire or billionaire who finds ways to avoid not only paying taxes but giving anything back to the society that gives them so much. 

For those who are angry about any undeserved services government and/or charities may bestow, how about asking yourself who you would deny help to by cutting back those things? What children would you let go hungry; who would you make homeless? If you disbelieve such consequences, try opening your eyes, ears and mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mike, for this excellent sermon – a sharing of life experience, concern and hope. That, and a previous year’s Labor Day sermon by Daniel Chavez (union organizer, activist and son of migrant workers), rank, to me, among HUU’s best Sunday services ever. UUs tend to be insulated in a bubble (or at least, feel insulated) from the hardships the struggling labor movement was formed to address. We need to hear about Labor Day. </p>
<p>Mike called for the UU community to speak out for justice. But during the dialogue following the sermon, hearing fellow-parishioners’ comments on laziness and cheating among public assistance beneficiaries, I wondered whether that advocacy can be possible.</p>
<p>Blaming the victim can be so comforting. It relieves us not only of feeling guilty but of worrying that another’s misfortune might just as well happen to us. Of course, laziness and cheating can be found in all walks of life. The welfare recipient who gets a wide-screen TV is only more conspicuous, and an easier target for demagogues’ outrage, than the millionaire or billionaire who finds ways to avoid not only paying taxes but giving anything back to the society that gives them so much. </p>
<p>For those who are angry about any undeserved services government and/or charities may bestow, how about asking yourself who you would deny help to by cutting back those things? What children would you let go hungry; who would you make homeless? If you disbelieve such consequences, try opening your eyes, ears and mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Word Police? by Mike Quayle</title>
		<link>http://huuweb.org/community-cafe/word-police/comment-page-1/#comment-29656</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Quayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris and Robin:
Yes, this language is a tough thing.  I actually midified some of the language in the printed version of the pamphlet due to similar concerns.  We have to be careful not to get so caughtup in language that we miss the spirit of the message.  This is true with the constantly changing &quot;Politically Correct&quot; language we are given.  I think the same is true for religious language.  We will never find a perfect fix to the issue.  Having gone through seminary in the days when the debat was over calling God Mother rather than Father, I failed to see how one was better than the other.  My experience is that whenever one segment of society or a group coins the right non-exclusive language, we end up excluding someone else !  In this regard I love Karen Armstrong&#039;s chapter in her book on how we speak to each other (12 steps to Compassionate Life), I think ch 4.  Compassion needs to overshadow all of the conversations.  I dare to quote Paul in I Corinthians 13; &quot;Though I may speak with the tongues of men (persons) and angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.&quot;  Good words, I think, in a day when we often use words as weapons.  Thanks for your thoughts !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris and Robin:<br />
Yes, this language is a tough thing.  I actually midified some of the language in the printed version of the pamphlet due to similar concerns.  We have to be careful not to get so caughtup in language that we miss the spirit of the message.  This is true with the constantly changing &#8220;Politically Correct&#8221; language we are given.  I think the same is true for religious language.  We will never find a perfect fix to the issue.  Having gone through seminary in the days when the debat was over calling God Mother rather than Father, I failed to see how one was better than the other.  My experience is that whenever one segment of society or a group coins the right non-exclusive language, we end up excluding someone else !  In this regard I love Karen Armstrong&#8217;s chapter in her book on how we speak to each other (12 steps to Compassionate Life), I think ch 4.  Compassion needs to overshadow all of the conversations.  I dare to quote Paul in I Corinthians 13; &#8220;Though I may speak with the tongues of men (persons) and angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.&#8221;  Good words, I think, in a day when we often use words as weapons.  Thanks for your thoughts !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unitarian Universalist Evangelism: Does it Have a Place? by Build Your Own Religion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Build Your Own Religion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 03:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unitarian Universalist Evangelism: Does it Have a Place? - Rev. Mike Quayle, Harrisonburg UU [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Unbroken Spirit of Mine:  Inspiration from Musicians by Laura Dent</title>
		<link>http://huuweb.org/community-cafe/unbroken-spirit-of-mine-inspiration-from-musicians/comment-page-1/#comment-29532</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, Tom, and to Pat for the link to &quot;Unbroken Spirit&quot; on YouTube.

More YouTube links:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=WJPe_RGZoH8&quot; title=&quot;Yes - The Revealing Science of God: Dance of the Dawn [part 1], Tales from Topographic Oceans, 1974&quot;&gt; ; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www....youtube.com/watch?v=24lxb1​WvDbM&quot; title=&quot;[part 2]&quot;&gt;

&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=5-lGKnIbNbw&quot; title=&quot;The Moody Blues - The Word (spoken poem) + OM, In Search of the Lost Chord, 1968&quot;&gt;

&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=qKbzQN9SkYA&quot; title=&quot;Jon Anderson - live recording of Unbroken Spirit, 2010&quot;&gt;

&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=Ze1QskUPhy4&quot; title=&quot;Aldo Tagliapietra - Come un vecchio indiano - live recording Radio Londra, 1992&quot;&gt;

&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=Qeong8zCmwE&quot; title=&quot;Aldo Tagliapietra - Venezia xe - radio show, June 2011 (for the &#039;unplugged&#039; sound)&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, Tom, and to Pat for the link to &#8220;Unbroken Spirit&#8221; on YouTube.</p>
<p>More YouTube links:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=WJPe_RGZoH8" title="Yes - The Revealing Science of God: Dance of the Dawn [part 1], Tales from Topographic Oceans, 1974"> ; </a><a href="http://www....youtube.com/watch?v=24lxb1​WvDbM" title="[part 2]"></p>
<p></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=5-lGKnIbNbw" title="The Moody Blues - The Word (spoken poem) + OM, In Search of the Lost Chord, 1968"></p>
<p></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=qKbzQN9SkYA" title="Jon Anderson - live recording of Unbroken Spirit, 2010"></p>
<p></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=Ze1QskUPhy4" title="Aldo Tagliapietra - Come un vecchio indiano - live recording Radio Londra, 1992"></p>
<p></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=Qeong8zCmwE" title="Aldo Tagliapietra - Venezia xe - radio show, June 2011 (for the 'unplugged' sound)"></a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Unbroken Spirit of Mine:  Inspiration from Musicians by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can so totally identify with this from my own transformative experiences with music. There are those moments when music pulls that enormous, spacious, silence out between the notes and chords.  Sorry I had to miss your talk but am glad it was posted here on the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can so totally identify with this from my own transformative experiences with music. There are those moments when music pulls that enormous, spacious, silence out between the notes and chords.  Sorry I had to miss your talk but am glad it was posted here on the website.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TJ District Name Change by Chris Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 23:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A Last Word on Project “Goodbye, TJ”
I wasn’t there, so I cannot judge the decision process this Spring by  which the UU district for our region dropped the name “Thomas Jefferson District.” We were told the consensus was based on concern for people of color in the district being “hurt” by use of the name Jefferson, a slave owner.  

I want to feel positive that in our mostly-non-diverse denomination, the majority made this concession to make a minority feel more welcome, and that the issue is finally put to rest after 15 years of debating it – making room, we may hope, for more pressing issues.

Yet it still bothers me. Trying to put oneself in others’ shoes is always dicey, but as a woman, I would NOT want the name Albert Einstein sandblasted out of history because he failed dismally as a husband and father (which he did), or William Shakespeare’s name because he wrote “Taming of the Shrew.” Their contributions to humanity cannot be questioned. I would not even support a campaign to change the name of JMU’s iconic “Wilson Hall” based on President Woodrow Wilson’s efforts to suppress women’s suffrage advocates.  And I consider myself a feminist, though not a feminist ideologue. (“Ideologues,” to me, mean those who try to divide humanity between the purely good and purely evil, and cram the complex, messy, rich, varied whole of life into any ideological box, and ban books or blow up statues or airbrush faces out of photos of whoever or whatever doesn’t fit the box.)

TJ (as we called him in Charlottesville) was deeply flawed and did not transcend his time when it came to ownership of fellow human beings. (Ditto for some of my own ancestors and those of plenty of other UU’s. What are we to do with them?) Yet Jefferson did more than any of the nation’s other founders to establish those radical and still-challenged policies of church-state separation and religious freedom. I don’t know of any UU’s not supporting or benefiting from them – so it’s sad that we had to purge TJ. It’s sad and STRANGE that we did this the same year the Texas Board of Education decided to mostly cut him out of that state’s public school curriculum – THEIR reason being his advocacy of church-state separation (coupled with his avowed, generally “Unitarian” beliefs). 

I hope we don’t pat ourselves on the backs for this move, but get on with working for meaningful change in our troubled society and world. And maybe wonder, if humanity does evolve morally and spiritually, what unexamined traditions or habits WE have that future generations could condemn us for – provided they have not evolved enough by then to forgive us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Last Word on Project “Goodbye, TJ”<br />
I wasn’t there, so I cannot judge the decision process this Spring by  which the UU district for our region dropped the name “Thomas Jefferson District.” We were told the consensus was based on concern for people of color in the district being “hurt” by use of the name Jefferson, a slave owner.  </p>
<p>I want to feel positive that in our mostly-non-diverse denomination, the majority made this concession to make a minority feel more welcome, and that the issue is finally put to rest after 15 years of debating it – making room, we may hope, for more pressing issues.</p>
<p>Yet it still bothers me. Trying to put oneself in others’ shoes is always dicey, but as a woman, I would NOT want the name Albert Einstein sandblasted out of history because he failed dismally as a husband and father (which he did), or William Shakespeare’s name because he wrote “Taming of the Shrew.” Their contributions to humanity cannot be questioned. I would not even support a campaign to change the name of JMU’s iconic “Wilson Hall” based on President Woodrow Wilson’s efforts to suppress women’s suffrage advocates.  And I consider myself a feminist, though not a feminist ideologue. (“Ideologues,” to me, mean those who try to divide humanity between the purely good and purely evil, and cram the complex, messy, rich, varied whole of life into any ideological box, and ban books or blow up statues or airbrush faces out of photos of whoever or whatever doesn’t fit the box.)</p>
<p>TJ (as we called him in Charlottesville) was deeply flawed and did not transcend his time when it came to ownership of fellow human beings. (Ditto for some of my own ancestors and those of plenty of other UU’s. What are we to do with them?) Yet Jefferson did more than any of the nation’s other founders to establish those radical and still-challenged policies of church-state separation and religious freedom. I don’t know of any UU’s not supporting or benefiting from them – so it’s sad that we had to purge TJ. It’s sad and STRANGE that we did this the same year the Texas Board of Education decided to mostly cut him out of that state’s public school curriculum – THEIR reason being his advocacy of church-state separation (coupled with his avowed, generally “Unitarian” beliefs). </p>
<p>I hope we don’t pat ourselves on the backs for this move, but get on with working for meaningful change in our troubled society and world. And maybe wonder, if humanity does evolve morally and spiritually, what unexamined traditions or habits WE have that future generations could condemn us for – provided they have not evolved enough by then to forgive us!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why HUU Becoming A Welcoming Congregation Matters by Mike Quayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Quayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 20:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big thank you to all who shared from their hearts !  Stories are always the most powerful way to share what matters to us and your words were powerful.  Thank you for being on this journey with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big thank you to all who shared from their hearts !  Stories are always the most powerful way to share what matters to us and your words were powerful.  Thank you for being on this journey with us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time, Time, Time, It’s Just a Matter of Time: The Beauty of Impermanence by Mike Quayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Quayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciated your message very much.  This is my &quot;first Easter&quot; as a UU and having preached the first service, deeply appreciated being able to listen during the second one and experience Easter in a different context.  Thank you again !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciated your message very much.  This is my &#8220;first Easter&#8221; as a UU and having preached the first service, deeply appreciated being able to listen during the second one and experience Easter in a different context.  Thank you again !</p>
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		<title>Comment on MISTRESS ANN BRADSTREET: GODLY AGNOSTIC by maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there! Certainly, mistress Ann Bradstreet was an accomplished poet in her time. She has plenty of followers.

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